Interview with Nadine Leilani

Are you really a slut?
When I was much younger, in my hopes and daydreams.

Nowadays, in my memories and imagination.
What have you learned as a writer of erotica?
To shoot rifles, not shotguns.

What I mean by that: I wrote several series. Bodacious Beth and Lizzie in the Big City. And five stories not linked by a single character, but which I thought went together.

The trouble is, the stories are too different. Bodacious Beth meets up with three handsome hunks, which is good. But in book 4 gets down with a Japanese lady. And in book 5 becomes the middle of a MFM menage. That's three different audiences.

Lizzie meets the man she loves, then goes for an older man, a woman, agrees to a MMF menage, then ends up a submissive. Five different audiences.

I enjoy reading about many different kinds of sexual experiences and sexualities, and just unconsciously assumed the entire market for erotica did, too.

No, most people just want to read about whatever kind of particular sexual orientation or kinkiness turns them on.
What are your thoughts on the current state of ebook erotica?
It's still in the wild, wild west stage. Which is exciting, because there's still a lot of potential.

However, I do believe there're now a lot of erotica writers abusing the opportunity.

By that, I mean many treat it as a get-rich-quick opportunity, and that alone may kill it for the rest of us more than anything else.

They write any old junky short story, then put it up at 99 cents or 2.99. Just throw a lot of shit against the wall to see what sticks.

The attitude is, just keep it short because readers just want to read the story quickly, during their lunch break, and they don't care about the quality anyway.

I'll admit, I'm kind of guilty of that. I published fifteen short stories. As noted, in a wide variety of sexual genres, although I called them series.

What's even worse, and I'm innocent of this, is writing just one long short story, but breaking it up into short bites, charging $2.99 per separate book. It may take five or six or ten separate books to tell the entire story. And that may not even add up to the length of an ordinary novel.

So I've decided, starting with Femdom Training of Egon, to take a cue from The Beatles.

Yeah, I know this really ages me.

But here's what I mean. Prior to The Beatles, most teens and young adults bought only .45 hit singles. That's what singers and groups aimed for -- putting out hit singles.

Weren't albums invented yet? Yes, they were. But the average album consisted of one or two hit singles by the artist, together with some shlock songs the artist recorded in five minutes. Many albums didn't last over thirty minutes. Six minutes of that consisted of their hits, and the other twenty-four lousy, boring junk, incuding the B sides of their hit singles. Some of the songs might be covers of other artists' hits, and, if the artist was diligent, it might be an entertaining cover.

Years ago I heard one of the Beatles (Paul? Ringo?) discuss that during an interview on my local oldies radio station.

I'll assume it was Ringo. Anyway, he said that situation made them angry. They all grew up in working class households. They didn't have much money. They scrounged a lot. Yet they were also music fanatics, collectors, and completists. So when they liked somebody, Buddy Holly or Lil Richard, they tried to get every record that artist put out. Not just the hits. They were students of music after all, not typical kids. They wanted to hear everything, so they could learn.

So Ringo said they hated to buy an album by one of their musical heroes, only to find much of it consisting of dreck. They worked hard to earn their money and hated to feel cheated. He cited one example where the album seemed to be by one of their heroes, but after several tracks, it was all by somebody else.

So, when they started recording, they worked hard to make each track high quality. Of course, you like some songs better than others, but no tracks on their albums are really bad.

I recall listening to Meet the Beatles over and over again, singing along.

That was my first album, so I didn't immediately notice the difference, but I did often notice that when I bought albums by other groups, I was lucky to like any tracks except the hit songs.

And, of course, if you know the history of rock, you know The Beatles went on to not only put out albums filled with great music from first track to last, but to create overall concept albums, unifying the tracks into one whole.

That's now the norm for everybody except the hit pop groups.

Anyway, that interview was an eye-opener for me. I just took for granted The Beatles albums contained a high percentage of quality music because they were just naturally great. I never before realize they could have padded their albums like everybody else, but refused to do so.

They gave great value to their album buyers, as a conscious choise, setting themselves above everybody else at the time.

They made great music that revolutionized the industry and society to an extent people born after 1955 can't appreciate, but they worked hard at their craft, and to advance their art.

Anyway, my point is that too many erotica writers, perhaps attracted to the field by the success of 50 Shades of Grey, are now coasting. Some reviewers complain about paying 2.99 five times to get an entire story that's short to begin with, but enough people continue to do so, to make it worthwhile.

I know of at least one ebook writer -- though not in the field of erotica -- who does teach writing fiction to get rich, who tells students to write these extended series.

And just to write it up any old way that gets the story told. People who buy independently published ebooks aren't expecting prose as good as Dean Koontz. They know he's not that good.

My belief is competition in ebooks is going to continue.

Although many independently published authors are not as good as Dean Koontz (and few traditionally published authors are as good as Dean Koontz, for that matter), many others are just
What's the rest of your answer?
I ran into Smashwords's word limit.

Although many independently published authors are not as good as Dean Koontz (and few traditionally published authors are as good as Dean Koontz either, for that matter), many others are just as good as most midlist traditionally published authors.

They know how to tell stories. How to structure novels. How to establish exciting characters. How to constructure plots. And how to use prose to make the reader feel they are present, experiencing the story for themselves.

They've been rejected by traditional publishers not because they're lousy writers, but because their novels don't appear to be blockbusters.

Some are rejecting traditional publishers, because they don't want to offer authors fair contracts.

If you're not already an A-list, blockbuster bestseller, you should avoid traditional publishing.

The new trend is for independents to go traditional only after they've proven their books are blockbusters. Then they have the strength to demand fair contracts.

My belief is erotica is headed for a housecleaning. Amazon has already asked some authors to remove books of less than 2,500 words. Someday they may get rid of books they judge of poor quality, as they did with Private Label Rights (PLR) books a few years ago.

Or, perhaps, the readers will do it themselves through marketplace competition.

Anyway, starting with Femdom Training of Egon, I'm planning to make sure my shorter works are still plenty long.

Besides, it's clear from the Top 100 in the Erotica classification that readers do prefer novels. When I've counted, I've found usually 90% of the bestsellers are novels. And the other 10% are usually at least fifty pages -- or, more likely, a hundred pages or more.

If your billionaire BBW werewolf rock star star really should be only four or five thousand words long, okay, but don't spread it out over four separate books.
What's your biggest wish?
Amazon would create subgenres for their Erotica category.

For example, it was just a month or so ago I learned the existence of tentacle porn. If you don't know what that is, you're not alone. It may not be for you, but how can you find out if you don't even know it exists?
Published 2013-09-13.
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Books by This Author

The Tongue Monster
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 6,150. Language: English. Published: September 27, 2013 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Paranormal, Fiction » Erotica » Couples Erotica
Julie loves all of orally-obsessed Rob, except his tongue -- until she dreams of the Tongue Monster. The monster envelopes Julie with his tongue, and his tongue-flesh invades her every body orifice. She struggles, but can't escape, and soon learns to just relax and enjoy. Soon her cries of ultimate pleasure wake Rob, and he proves a man's mouth can deliver the same wet bliss to her every orifice.
Femdom Training of Gary
Series: Dominatrix Jenny, Book 2. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 14,460. Language: English. Published: September 23, 2013 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » BDSM, Fiction » Romance » Adult
Fresh from witnessing a dominatrix tame her male slave, Jenny decides to dominate her boyfriend. Gary won't take responsibility for his life, so she must. He can find a job as male bed slave of a rich widow or divorcee. Once she trains him to enjoy being spanked, humiliated, cuckolded, and pegged. Besides, Gary owes her over a year of not paying his half of the household expenses.
Femdom Training of Egon
Series: Dominatrix Jenny, Book 1. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 13,800. Language: English. Published: August 3, 2013 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Women's Erotica, Fiction » Erotica » BDSM
Another ho-hum Friday night. Argue with boyfriend. Report to job. Join a dominatrix training her latest male sex slave. The private party in the Jefferson Suite starts out sedate enough, though why eight women and only one man? It soon changes into the most sexually exciting night of Jenny's life. Whipping. Forced cross-dressing. Spanking. Female domination training. Male humiliation to the max.
Panty Fetish Boss
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,310. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » General
Her husband's boss with her old, used panties? Bring it on! Neil needs a promotion. His wife Nadine needs more and better sex. Neil's boss needs panties. They work out a win/win/win solution that satisfies both Nadine and the boss. Neil gets his promotion.
While Hubby Watches
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,230. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Menage/Multiple Partners, Fiction » Erotica » BDSM
Alex loves watching men with his wife -- and two men with his wife at the same time? Double the fun! Alex's wife Jen can't get enough to satisfy her appetite. She loves Alex, but needs a lot more than Alex can give her. On vacation, Alex and Jen pick up Dave and Gary, two salespeople. After Dave and Gary fill Jen up, Alex takes his turn with her.
Mouth for Hire
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,220. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Lesbian Erotica, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
In tough times, some people work for food, and for a job others will give oral pleasure -- even women. The job interviewer looks at a picture of the next applicant, Shelly, and gets wet. Such a hot young woman. Impossible of course. But Shelly needs the job. She announces she will do anything. Anything. Even dominate and give the interviewer a peak experience.
Mouth at His Command
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,770. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » BDSM, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
The first time she meets him, Brittney submits to his sexual dominance, loving to serve hm. Although a successful professional woman at work, some inner need drives Brittney to seek out a dominant male. First he makes her his phone sex partner, and now she arrives at his house for further BDSM sex training.
Sharing Kinks
Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,680. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » BDSM, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
They love each other, but can they satisfy both their kinky fantasies at once? He wants her to dress as a Catholic school girl. She wants him to drive a taxi. Together, they create an older man younger fantasy scenario that gives them both legendary orgasms.
Dominant Married Man
Series: Lizzie in the Big City, Book 5. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 5,220. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » BDSM, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
Carson introduces Lizzie to the fascinating world of BSDM, and she submits -- until she learns she works for Carson's wife. Lizzie meets Carson at a company picnic, a clue she misses. Soon she arrives at his hotel room, and starts learning the rules to pleasing him. However, she can't help but wonder why he never penetrates her, and he tells her the awful truth.
Birthday Menage
Series: Lizzie in the Big City, Book 4. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,960. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Menage/Multiple Partners, Fiction » Erotica » Gay Erotica
Lizzie agrees to help gay friend Thomas surprise his bisexual boyfriend Paul's birthday . . . with Lizzie herself. The three of them enjoy a wonderful MMF menage romance together that night. She never met Paul, but that night he arrives home to find his apartment highly decorated, with lucious Lizzie draped over his couch dressed in nothing but red body glitter, a garter belt, and stiletto heels.
The Female CEO
Series: Lizzie in the Big City, Book 3. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 4,090. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Lesbian Erotica, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
Lizzie didn't plan on having sex with the big boss, a woman, but neither could resist the other. When Lizzie arrived at the Big City, she wanted to have sexual adventures she wouldn't dare risk in Boca Falls, but making love to another woman -- the owner of the coffee shop chain where she worked -- didn't cross her mind. Until she and Allison met each other.
The Older Lover
Series: Lizzie in the Big City, Book 2. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,930. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » General
Although just eighteen, Lizzie finds post-40 Harold handsome and distinguished, and, one bad day, hopes to cheer him up. A regular customer at the coffee shop where Lizzie works, Harold usually smiles. Today he frowns, all because somebody called him grandpa. Lizzie makes a plan. He wins the raffle, and she delivers the prize . . . . personally.
Big City Lover
Series: Lizzie in the Big City, Book 1. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 4,580. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » General
Small town girl Lizzie meets Shea, the mysterious, sexy strange man with the silver dragon in his ear. While still moving into her apartment from Boca Falls. But can the big city lover handle the new adult contemporary romance?
Carnival Threesome
Series: Bodacious Beth, Book 5. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 3,950. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Menage/Multiple Partners, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
In Brazil during the Carnival orgy, Bodacious Beth welcomes one strange man, and then finds another's manhood in her mouth. The weekend before Lent spells partytime no place more than in Brazil. Drinking, dancing, and a large orgy.
Japanese Love Hotel
Series: Bodacious Beth, Book 4. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 5,090. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Lesbian Erotica, Fiction » Erotica » Interracial
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International sex adventurer Bodacious Beth checks out a Japanese Love Hotel, and discovers she enjoys making love with beautiful women as well as men. Beth decides to lose her lesbian virginity, at the same time trying out one of Japan's infamous love hotels. One look at the petite, beautiful Kiko, and Beth overflows with hot lust for a lesbian massage.
Audacious Australian Romance
Series: Bodacious Beth, Book 3. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 4,140. Language: English. Published: August 11, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » Women's Erotica
Beth travels the world, but in Sydney, Australia her "long distance romance" extends from her hotel room balcony down to the man on the nude beach. Staring at each other, they communicate with the universal sign language of mutual lust.
Passionate in Paris
Series: Bodacious Beth, Book 2. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 5,390. Language: English. Published: August 10, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » Women's Erotica
The luxury Paris hotel room boy believes in excellent room service . . . delivering orgasm after orgasm. Bodacious Beth travels to Paris, France on business, and discovers the French really do believe in great sex. The hotel sends her just the young, handsome, well-hung garcon she dreams of.
Caribbean Beach Romeo
Series: Bodacious Beth, Book 1. Price: $2.99 USD. Words: 5,510. Language: English. Published: August 10, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary, Fiction » Erotica » Interracial
Even on a Caribbean beach, Beth mourns her ex . . . until the local Romeo spots her lonely beauty. Beth just wanted to lay in the sun and feel sorry for herself. Her longtime boyfriend Mike didn't want her any longer. Boo hoo. But Beth's friend Maria drags her to the evening bonfire. Romeo, his lilting accent, gleaming black skin, and muscular body, convinces Beth her sex appeal continues.
15 Erotic Exotic Tales
Price: $5.99 USD. Words: 46,360. Language: English. Published: August 10, 2012 by Wendy. Categories: Fiction » Erotica » Erotica Anthologies, Fiction » Erotica » Contemporary
15 hot, adults only stories of crazy, twisted desire in foreign lands, with same sex partners, in groups, for kicks and kinks. This erotica short story collection brings you a wide variety of adult only stories.